Would you believe what our government is trying to do? They are trying repeal a law which allows reasonable force in the discipline of children. Which means that ordinary parents who practice smacking and time out will suddenly become child-abusing criminals.
This is the petition form against the bill, Please sign it! If you are an NZ citizen or permanent resident;
http://starstuddedsuperstep.com/section59/htm/happen.htm
This is MPs (Members of Parliament) giving their stands;
http://johnkey.co.nz/index.php?/archives/66-VIDEO-John-Key-on-the-anti-smacking-legislation.html#c160
http://www.greens.org.nz/campaigns/section59/ (be careful here, it is pro the bill, and the two cases they mention are not at all typical)
http://starstuddedsuperstep.com/section59/htm/news.htm
here are some web pages which express opinions;
http://starstuddedsuperstep.com/section59/htm/news.htm (the best!)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sue+bradford&search=Search (try this one)
http://www.familyfirst.org.nz/index.cfm/action_alert_/anti_smacking_bill.html http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00321.htm
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00310.htm
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0703/S00325.htm
This is what those who want the repeal are saying, in an examle from the NZ Psychological society, with arguments against them in red.
Monday, 26 March 2007, 10:12 am
Press Release: NZ Psychological Society
The NZ Psychological Society Supports The Repeal Of Section
59 Of The Crimes Act
“The NZ Psychological Society
strongly supports removing the legislative protection for
parents who use ’force by way of correction’ towards a
child” said spokesman Peter Coleman, the Society’s
Director of Social Issues. “On the basis of evidence
available we consider that the use of physical force on
children is ethically unjustifiable( If by ethically unjustifiable they mean wrong, there is no evidence to support this. It is wrong to abuse, not not smack, by the ethics of 80 percent or more of New Zealanders) , demonstratively
ineffective (It is fairly obvious to most people that brats have soft parents that spoil them, and "nice kids" have parents who discipline bad behavior) and counterproductive, leading to poor outcomes
in the longer term. We also believe that the current
legislation is contrary to the United Nations Convention On
The Rights Of The Child, to which New Zealand is a
signatory”, he said.(I read the pertinent section, and it does not say that).
He said, “Whilst some might
argue that there is a distinction between a ‘loving’
smack and one administered in anger(well, duh), it should be obvious
that this adult distinction is meaningless to children(I personally have always known the distinction when disciplined by my own parents, and they have always been careful to reaffirm their love for me when disciplining) ,
whose welfare is our prime concern. The euphemism of
‘light smacking’ that is said to cause ‘transitory and
trifling discomfort’ has been introduced into the debate
through the Burrows’ amendment but we suggest that the
phrase “hitting and hurting” more accurately describes
the intent and the behaviour of the parent and the
experiences of children. So let us be honest and call it
what it is, hitting and hurting children”.((The intent of parents is not to hurt or for revenge, neither does hitting and hurting describe a smack, so its not honest to call it that.)
“Very
often the aims of good parenting and commendable
child-behaviour are both confused with the means of
achieving them. Punishing a child for inappropriate
behaviour may temporally suppress that behaviour but does
not bring about lasting change nor does it result in
learning alternative behaviours.(Since the beginning of civilisation, it has been considered a respected truth that discipline does work. Is it a good idea to so lightly dismiss the views of 100's of years of millions of peoples informed opinions? )
It is what is done at
other times (e.g. when problem behaviour is not occurring)
that have the greatest bearing on whether or not the
inappropriate behaviour will re-occur. The evidence(Which evidence) is that
pro-active teaching of appropriate ways of behaving achieves
the goal most effectively and that inflicting physical (or
other) punishment after the event is not” he said.(So how do you tell a two year old that can't talk not to turn the hot tap in the bath on? Do you model the behaviour and give him cold baths?, Show him at dinner time, somehow, that turning a hot tap on will burn you?)
He said, “it is unconscionable to
deliberately inflict pain on any child, especially when the
predictable outcomes of hitting and hurting children are it
will not reduce the rate of problem behaviours or increase
the rate of positive behaviours.(Hot taps hurt more then smacks)
Rather hitting and
hurting is likely to teach the child to avoid detection and
teach him or her that hitting and hurting is an acceptable
way of solving interpersonal or compliance problems. In the
long term it is also likely to result in an increased risk
of children developing antisocial behaviours, adjustment
problems or a mental illness. How therefore can hitting and
hurting children, is as is sometimes argued, achieve the
aims of strengthening the family and of protecting
society,” he asked.(I agree, in the context of hitting and hurting, but not of smacking)
“Do we really think that hitting
and hurting children makes for a better parent and person
and enhances the parent-child relationship? It is anomalous
that the one remaining class of people for whom corporal
punishment is still sanctioned under New Zealand law are
those who, because of their age are the most likely to
suffer physical and psychological harm from such punishment
and are the least culpable for their misbehaviour,” he
said.(Actually, there are already effective laws in place to prevent child abuse in New Zealand, which appears to be the real thing talked about here)
“It is appalling,” he said that, “New
Zealand has one of the highest rates of child-deaths at the
hands of parents and caregivers in the OECD countries.
International research demonstrates that almost all of such
deaths (and serious injuries) arise in the context of
parents administering physical punishment.(Abuse cases, not smacks. This law won't stop people who offend , they're already law breakers. It will only criminalise those who don't abuse, but do smack)
Many of those
who are incarcerated in our prisons for offences of violence
have been subject to severe physical discipline and abuse as
children.(again child abuse, not smacking) Repeal of Section 59 should assist changes in
parenting practices that will lead to societal changes over
time, and a reduction in child-deaths and injuries may
become apparent after a generation or two.”(Would it really, given what I said. Would the cost be worth the benefits, if there even were any. Is it a good idea to give the government the power to remove the children of good parents as abuse victims? The power to use that ability as black mail? "Conform or we'll take the kids"!!!)
ENDS
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